Phil Stewart

I mean, I've heard someone describe it as, as an operation that was even more complicated than the bin Laden operation.

Um,

Partly due to the weather and the fact that you're coming off the sea and there's a lot of unstable air.

So you're coming in with helos off the sea.

Around 150 aircraft were involved in this thing because they didn't just come in.

They used all kinds of effects beforehand to black out part of the city and kill comms and knock out air defenses and knock out all the kind of threats that they could possibly

you know, preemptively deal with so that when they got in the ground, they had to deal with Maduro's personal security, you know, the security of the compound.

And that was quite deadly.

You know, when they when they landed, they flew in at about 100 feet off the off the water in the darkness of night with the city blacked out and they landed and they and they piled out of the of the of the helicopters.

You're talking about a team of, you know, less than 200, probably.

And and they and they came in.

And from what we understand, I think the Cubans have said there were 32 Cuban nationals who are protecting Maduro who were killed.

And I think at least a couple dozen more, if not more than that, of Venezuelans who are who are killed in that operation.

They haven't said.

That's a safe assumption.

But they haven't said.

I couldn't tell you.

I wouldn't want to venture a guess about the size and scope of the compound itself, just not knowing it well enough.

International organizations for press freedom have said that there needs to be less restrictions on foreign access to reporting inside Venezuela.

That said, you see foreign journalists who are on the ground there and take risk to report on what's going on, even in these recent days.