Phil Stewart

But I would say the success of both those operations probably will lead the president to think this is a valid way of accomplishing foreign policy goals.

So today, you know, you've seen the extraction of President Nicolas Maduro from Venezuela.

But Maduro's government is still very much intact.

And it is, you know, according to President Trump, is very responsive to Washington and its interests and its plans.

But this is a government that has been fiercely isolated.

anti-American for many years, fiercely concerned about the United States.

And a lot of its supporters are very skeptical of the United States.

So it really remains to be seen, you know, how long the cooperation will last, if there'll be a breaking point, if there'll be a request that it just goes too far for them.

And then also this sort of, you know,

There are a lot of private discussions, we understand, between Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the interim president.

And it remains to be seen whether the kind of goodwill that's been described to the media, the goodwill in private, will become something public that the Venezuelan government would talk about.

I would say that the Venezuelan government would certainly say that.

And I would say that the Venezuelan government is very concerned about being seen as a U.S.

colony or anything like that.

Sorry, go ahead.

Well, I mean, if the international organizations that judged the last election are correct, there are a lot of people that do not support the government and voted a different way.

Do we know what the numbers of those were?

Yeah, yeah.

They're deaf.

They're public.