Phil Stewart

And the international organizations had what they thought were the correct vote tallies, and they did not correspond with the official tallies.

And they were very public about that at the time of the election.

And so the question is, today, there is no real dissent in the streets.

The Maduro government still is very much in charge, and as we discussed earlier,

According to local media reports, they've arrested people who had social media criticized Maduro or celebrated his capture.

And so I would say that the Maduro government is still very much in charge, it would seem, from the outside.

So he's charged with different kinds of crimes related to narcotics trafficking.

Cocaine trafficking, yeah.

Well, we don't – I didn't see it in the charges, but we don't know the entirety of the case.

And we have to – there was an interesting interview by a former CIA station chief that I watched recently where he was saying that the U.S.

public needs to be a little patient here because soon they'll have a lot of evidence introduced into court that will detail the U.S.

case against Maduro.

And people who – like this person who say that they know what's in that case file are quite confident there's a lot there, but –

Yeah, I can't speak to the ins and outs of the case.

I haven't read the whole case yet, what's been submitted to the courts, but I would tell you that the argument politically has been exactly that, that the United States has suffered as a result of what Maduro has done, and they're drawing parallels to Noriega, the Panamanian president who was also extradited to the United States and died here in jail.

Oh, the DOJ was with the military and executed the arrest?

Well, I think that the administration has been seeking to create a legal framework by having DOJ folks on the mission, reading him his rights, bringing him to a courthouse immediately after his seizure in Venezuela.

That's what they said.

I didn't see that though, but that's what they said.

It's been mixed.