Phil

I mean, I always say every time that we share in some way, in some format about where God has brought us, it's like we feel more scar tissue thicker and protective on our own wounds that were so open and fresh and dangerous 25 years ago.

But now it's just like a surgery that makes you stronger instead of weaker.

So yeah, I feel that for sure is that.

Yeah, we say that a lot, don't we, Zach, on the podcast.

The idea that Jesus brought us that, this new Eden, this new creation.

And even now we have experiences of,

that lead us to what it's going to be like.

And sometimes it is hard to imagine, you know, what, what it's going to be like fully, but man, you know, if it's, if it's a continuation of what we've already experienced and then even better, I mean, I can't wait.

I mean, I will wait because I don't have a choice.

Well, I was even thinking about our own, you know, our own country, you know, we're celebrating 250 years this year and

Yeah, you see the idealism of the founders and these big, bold ideas about a democratic republic and what it would look like and having representation.

And the one thing they never really seemingly counted on was bureaucracy that would grow along with these wonderful ideas and that someone, instead of going and donating two years of their time to be a representative of their people back home, would turn that into 70-year careers.

of corruption and money and all the things that it's become.

And you see what bureaucracy has done to our nation in just 250 years.

And I'd say that's one of the evils that has been the greatest bane of our country.

And the founders never even imagined it growing to that place.

What's the right thing to do?

Right.

That's the question that never gets asked, right?

It's only what I have to do, which is such a great point into what he's making with this whole book is when you look at the evil one and how he operates, and they were after the patient, remember?