Philip Wegman

So the fact that this meeting was put on the schedule is incredibly significant because it shows that the White House knows, look, we have to service this part of our coalition.

We have to get on board with them.

Maybe it reflects that the administration believed that they let a core constituency outside of the fold.

We don't know how much of a leash does the president actually give J.D.

Vance to go pursue the nomination.

And as he's doing it, is Donald Trump a stage mom giving helpful advice?

Or is he one of the judges saying, hey, I thought you were the MAGA heir apparent, but some of these other guys have better stump speeches and they are more deferential towards me?

You know,

Donald Trump, I think that everything is transactional.

And so where you have these pro-lifers who are motivated by a single principle, and then you have a politician who is motivated just by getting the best deal that he can, do they get back on the same page?

Or is this a break?

And look, you know, the anti-abortion lobby has been one of the most loyal constituencies for Republicans for decades.

Sean, this is the story of the Trump era.

He shows up and he tears the curtain on what Republican orthodoxy is, remaking the party in his own image.

There are some things he absolutely cares about, trade, immigration, foreign policy.

On all of the other areas, though, now there's no gatekeeper to say what is and isn't conservative.

And all have sort of freely entered in to have this argument.

Some folks, like the pro-lifers, are saying this has been a party platform issue for decades.

It cannot change.

It shouldn't change.