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Philip Zimbardo

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Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

That's the switch. They're no longer college students like you. Everybody knows they're college students. So now they are dangerous prisoners. And what do you do with dangerous prisoners? You have to teach them that they have no power. They have minus power. Because the potential for rebellion is always there. And this is true of real guards in real prisons.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

So in every way and every day, you have to suppress their freedom, suppress their likelihood to rebel. And you had to demonstrate, mostly by doing arbitrary, stupid things, that you had power. So you tell a joke and they laugh, you punish them. They tell a joke and they don't laugh, you punish them. So you create a totally arbitrary environment where prisoners in college have no idea what to do.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

So in every way and every day, you have to suppress their freedom, suppress their likelihood to rebel. And you had to demonstrate, mostly by doing arbitrary, stupid things, that you had power. So you tell a joke and they laugh, you punish them. They tell a joke and they don't laugh, you punish them. So you create a totally arbitrary environment where prisoners in college have no idea what to do.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

So in every way and every day, you have to suppress their freedom, suppress their likelihood to rebel. And you had to demonstrate, mostly by doing arbitrary, stupid things, that you had power. So you tell a joke and they laugh, you punish them. They tell a joke and they don't laugh, you punish them. So you create a totally arbitrary environment where prisoners in college have no idea what to do.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then punishment is usually just push-ups, jumping jacks, but then it escalates, and it always escalates, as we saw in Abu Ghraib, toward the sexual. So the guards say, you're Frankenstein, you're Mrs. Frankenstein, walk like Frankenstein, hug them, say I love you.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then punishment is usually just push-ups, jumping jacks, but then it escalates, and it always escalates, as we saw in Abu Ghraib, toward the sexual. So the guards say, you're Frankenstein, you're Mrs. Frankenstein, walk like Frankenstein, hug them, say I love you.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then punishment is usually just push-ups, jumping jacks, but then it escalates, and it always escalates, as we saw in Abu Ghraib, toward the sexual. So the guards say, you're Frankenstein, you're Mrs. Frankenstein, walk like Frankenstein, hug them, say I love you.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then little things like this or, you know, your female camels, your male camels bend over. Now, you know, hump them. So it's a play on words. And they're simulating sodomy in an experiment with college students. Now, some of this I didn't see because the experiment's going on 24 hours a day. And most of the things, the worst things happen at night.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then little things like this or, you know, your female camels, your male camels bend over. Now, you know, hump them. So it's a play on words. And they're simulating sodomy in an experiment with college students. Now, some of this I didn't see because the experiment's going on 24 hours a day. And most of the things, the worst things happen at night.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And then little things like this or, you know, your female camels, your male camels bend over. Now, you know, hump them. So it's a play on words. And they're simulating sodomy in an experiment with college students. Now, some of this I didn't see because the experiment's going on 24 hours a day. And most of the things, the worst things happen at night.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

She sees something which, from her point of view, is unimaginable that should happen anywhere. Unimaginable should happen in an experiment. Namely, guards are cursing and screaming and pushing prisoners. Prisoners have bags over their head. They're shuffling their legs. Legs are chains, like a chain gang. Like you see in pictures of the South in Louisiana prisons.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

She sees something which, from her point of view, is unimaginable that should happen anywhere. Unimaginable should happen in an experiment. Namely, guards are cursing and screaming and pushing prisoners. Prisoners have bags over their head. They're shuffling their legs. Legs are chains, like a chain gang. Like you see in pictures of the South in Louisiana prisons.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

She sees something which, from her point of view, is unimaginable that should happen anywhere. Unimaginable should happen in an experiment. Namely, guards are cursing and screaming and pushing prisoners. Prisoners have bags over their head. They're shuffling their legs. Legs are chains, like a chain gang. Like you see in pictures of the South in Louisiana prisons.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And I'm looking at this, and literally, I have 8 o'clock breakfast, 10 o'clock parole board hearing, 12 o'clock lunch, and it's 10 o'clock, and it simply says, toilet run.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And I'm looking at this, and literally, I have 8 o'clock breakfast, 10 o'clock parole board hearing, 12 o'clock lunch, and it's 10 o'clock, and it simply says, toilet run.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And I'm looking at this, and literally, I have 8 o'clock breakfast, 10 o'clock parole board hearing, 12 o'clock lunch, and it's 10 o'clock, and it simply says, toilet run.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And now we're standing outside in the fresh air. It's now 11 o'clock at night or 10.30 at night in front of the psychology building. And she's saying, how could you see what I see and not get upset? And I'm saying, what do you see? It's the dynamics of human nature. It's It's the power of the situation. I'm giving all the psychological jargon and she's giving me the humanity of the situation.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And now we're standing outside in the fresh air. It's now 11 o'clock at night or 10.30 at night in front of the psychology building. And she's saying, how could you see what I see and not get upset? And I'm saying, what do you see? It's the dynamics of human nature. It's It's the power of the situation. I'm giving all the psychological jargon and she's giving me the humanity of the situation.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

And now we're standing outside in the fresh air. It's now 11 o'clock at night or 10.30 at night in front of the psychology building. And she's saying, how could you see what I see and not get upset? And I'm saying, what do you see? It's the dynamics of human nature. It's It's the power of the situation. I'm giving all the psychological jargon and she's giving me the humanity of the situation.

Hidden Brain
How Monsters are Made

Boys are suffering. They're not prisoners. That's what she's saying. They're not prisoners in our guards. They're boys and you are responsible. How could you allow this to happen?