Philippa Perry

Yeah.

Because we've got more autonomy than we believe.

And what it's about, sort of journaling and things like that, what it's about is to become more self-aware.

Because when we become more self-aware, we then got choices.

I've got a choice whether I do rounding circles, panic thinking, or whether I come to my senses and notice what I can see, hear, smell, touch.

And coming into your senses, if you say do that practice for like quarter of an hour, just what can I smell?

It's quite fun to do it now.

What can I smell?

What can I hear?

Oh, I think I can hear a buzzing sound.

You know, it's very calming and it shows you do have a choice about what you fill your head with.

The phone, unfortunately, is a source of dopamine.

Now, that gives you a sort of little thrill.

Yeah.

But it's not the right sort of thrill.

The right sort of thrill is the thrill I'm having now because I'm having a conversation with you.

It's a contact thrill.

And in the olden days when we were a bit bored, we used to talk to the person next to us on the train or the bus.

Yeah.

But now we're always on our phones because that's not a risk.