Philippa Perry

The higher the number of hospital admissions, the better the party, for sure.

Yeah.

I think actually Pat's biggest advantage is that she knows how to rally the troops.

She could not have solved that murder alone.

And one thing psychotherapists are supposed to be good at is having relationships.

And so it's her relationships with other people that working together, they get to the answer.

She didn't do it by herself.

She is definitely an aspect of me.

She is the person I kind of wish I was, but I'm not.

Maybe I've got to read your book because...

Pat does not worry about being likeable.

Love that.

She is the grumpiest woman you'll meet on the South Downs.

Yeah.

And when you meet her on the South Downs, she'll probably tell you off for something.

Yes, that is a subplot, the Mars bar wrapper.

That's another mystery that needs solving.

You get really, really cold and it's so nice to warm up again.

I'm not actually sure what benefits it gives you.

I like moving my arms and legs in the water, but I actually would prefer if it was 30 degrees and not six degrees, but...