Phillip Goff
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And here we finally get to this neglected interpretation that me and Kelvin are exploring. Maybe what we can add is consciousness, right? Maybe it's that that makes the difference. Now, there's a classic way of doing this. People might have heard of this idea that consciousness collapses the wave function. This was defended by Wigner in the 1960s, Nobel Prize winning quantum theorist.
And here we finally get to this neglected interpretation that me and Kelvin are exploring. Maybe what we can add is consciousness, right? Maybe it's that that makes the difference. Now, there's a classic way of doing this. People might have heard of this idea that consciousness collapses the wave function. This was defended by Wigner in the 1960s, Nobel Prize winning quantum theorist.
So this is the idea that, well, it's when consciousness interacts with the cat in the box function that the many living and dead cats collapse into one definitely living or one definitely dead cat. So that's one option. Has certain problems, but that's one possibility.
So this is the idea that, well, it's when consciousness interacts with the cat in the box function that the many living and dead cats collapse into one definitely living or one definitely dead cat. So that's one option. Has certain problems, but that's one possibility.
So this is the idea that, well, it's when consciousness interacts with the cat in the box function that the many living and dead cats collapse into one definitely living or one definitely dead cat. So that's one option. Has certain problems, but that's one possibility.
Yeah, all of these views have... ways of making sense of that in some way it's it's a popular misconception that that that finding establishes the the correct interpretation of quantum mechanics but all of these live options on quantum mechanics have some clever way of making sense of that yeah the bizarre finding um
Yeah, all of these views have... ways of making sense of that in some way it's it's a popular misconception that that that finding establishes the the correct interpretation of quantum mechanics but all of these live options on quantum mechanics have some clever way of making sense of that yeah the bizarre finding um
Yeah, all of these views have... ways of making sense of that in some way it's it's a popular misconception that that that finding establishes the the correct interpretation of quantum mechanics but all of these live options on quantum mechanics have some clever way of making sense of that yeah the bizarre finding um
originally foretold by Bell, who should have got a Nobel Prize, died a bit early, sadly, I think probably the reason. Anyway, but this possibility we're exploring is that we just take the many world story, right? So the physical universe is branching, but consciousness just goes down one of the branches.
originally foretold by Bell, who should have got a Nobel Prize, died a bit early, sadly, I think probably the reason. Anyway, but this possibility we're exploring is that we just take the many world story, right? So the physical universe is branching, but consciousness just goes down one of the branches.
originally foretold by Bell, who should have got a Nobel Prize, died a bit early, sadly, I think probably the reason. Anyway, but this possibility we're exploring is that we just take the many world story, right? So the physical universe is branching, but consciousness just goes down one of the branches.
So if you're doing Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, your body will branch into a version that's interacting with a living cat and a version that's interacting with a dead cat. But your conscious mind will just go into one of those bodies. You're looking skeptical. Before you come up with skepticism, let me just... And I'm not saying this view is correct, but it's interesting to explore.
So if you're doing Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, your body will branch into a version that's interacting with a living cat and a version that's interacting with a dead cat. But your conscious mind will just go into one of those bodies. You're looking skeptical. Before you come up with skepticism, let me just... And I'm not saying this view is correct, but it's interesting to explore.
So if you're doing Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, your body will branch into a version that's interacting with a living cat and a version that's interacting with a dead cat. But your conscious mind will just go into one of those bodies. You're looking skeptical. Before you come up with skepticism, let me just... And I'm not saying this view is correct, but it's interesting to explore.
So Squires, you and Squires hope with this. What's the point in taking this seriously? we can get probability back, right? Because how do we analyze the idea that there's a 75% chance you'll see a living cat and a 25% chance you'll see a dead cat? Well, there's a 75% chance your conscious mind is going to go down the living cat branch and a 25% chance your mind will go down the dead cat branch.
So Squires, you and Squires hope with this. What's the point in taking this seriously? we can get probability back, right? Because how do we analyze the idea that there's a 75% chance you'll see a living cat and a 25% chance you'll see a dead cat? Well, there's a 75% chance your conscious mind is going to go down the living cat branch and a 25% chance your mind will go down the dead cat branch.
So Squires, you and Squires hope with this. What's the point in taking this seriously? we can get probability back, right? Because how do we analyze the idea that there's a 75% chance you'll see a living cat and a 25% chance you'll see a dead cat? Well, there's a 75% chance your conscious mind is going to go down the living cat branch and a 25% chance your mind will go down the dead cat branch.
So the hope is, look, for people with certain philosophical starting points who think you need to add consciousness, you somehow need to add consciousness to the purely mathematical story of physics, And you need to add something to many worlds to get probability. If we could add one thing and get both... that would be a saving, you know? That would be more bang for your buck.
So the hope is, look, for people with certain philosophical starting points who think you need to add consciousness, you somehow need to add consciousness to the purely mathematical story of physics, And you need to add something to many worlds to get probability. If we could add one thing and get both... that would be a saving, you know? That would be more bang for your buck.
So the hope is, look, for people with certain philosophical starting points who think you need to add consciousness, you somehow need to add consciousness to the purely mathematical story of physics, And you need to add something to many worlds to get probability. If we could add one thing and get both... that would be a saving, you know? That would be more bang for your buck.