Phoebe Gates

And I think the clarification is me and Sophia fight all the time. I mean, we're co-founders and best friends, but it's about like having something so we can figure out at the end of the day, like, OK, we disagree on this. But like, if you think that color blue is better, like, let's just go for it. And if it's wrong, we'll get rid of it. Like, and then we'll do, you know, my idea next.

And so that's like the biggest thing I think we've learned is just argue really fast. And we have something where we limit arguments to what, five minutes now. So at the end of it, we're like, OK, decision time.

And so that's like the biggest thing I think we've learned is just argue really fast. And we have something where we limit arguments to what, five minutes now. So at the end of it, we're like, OK, decision time.

And so that's like the biggest thing I think we've learned is just argue really fast. And we have something where we limit arguments to what, five minutes now. So at the end of it, we're like, OK, decision time.

Back to work. We need to decide what the next step is. So even like you're getting it off the chest and then at the end of the five minutes, like, OK, what are the action items? OK, if Phoebe's mad, Phoebe, go for a walk. Phoebe, go get latte. Phoebe, go take a nap. Phoebe, come back. Or, you know, let's make a decision. Let's try this. And then if it fails, OK, great.

Back to work. We need to decide what the next step is. So even like you're getting it off the chest and then at the end of the five minutes, like, OK, what are the action items? OK, if Phoebe's mad, Phoebe, go for a walk. Phoebe, go get latte. Phoebe, go take a nap. Phoebe, come back. Or, you know, let's make a decision. Let's try this. And then if it fails, OK, great.

Back to work. We need to decide what the next step is. So even like you're getting it off the chest and then at the end of the five minutes, like, OK, what are the action items? OK, if Phoebe's mad, Phoebe, go for a walk. Phoebe, go get latte. Phoebe, go take a nap. Phoebe, come back. Or, you know, let's make a decision. Let's try this. And then if it fails, OK, great.

We'll try it for a week and then do your idea.

We'll try it for a week and then do your idea.

We'll try it for a week and then do your idea.

Yeah, I think 100%. But the tough thing is it's like, yeah, that's difficult, but that comes with so much privilege, right? Like I didn't have to fight for a scholarship in college. Like I knew what my college was going to be paid for. I had incredible opportunities because of my parents.

Yeah, I think 100%. But the tough thing is it's like, yeah, that's difficult, but that comes with so much privilege, right? Like I didn't have to fight for a scholarship in college. Like I knew what my college was going to be paid for. I had incredible opportunities because of my parents.

Yeah, I think 100%. But the tough thing is it's like, yeah, that's difficult, but that comes with so much privilege, right? Like I didn't have to fight for a scholarship in college. Like I knew what my college was going to be paid for. I had incredible opportunities because of my parents.

Like if I didn't have my parents as my rock, like I wouldn't have been able to have these incredible opportunities. So yes, it came with the thing of like, oh yeah, I am in my parents' shadows and like You know, it is going to be tough to make a name for myself. I had to learn very early on who were true friends, who weren't true friends.

Like if I didn't have my parents as my rock, like I wouldn't have been able to have these incredible opportunities. So yes, it came with the thing of like, oh yeah, I am in my parents' shadows and like You know, it is going to be tough to make a name for myself. I had to learn very early on who were true friends, who weren't true friends.

Like if I didn't have my parents as my rock, like I wouldn't have been able to have these incredible opportunities. So yes, it came with the thing of like, oh yeah, I am in my parents' shadows and like You know, it is going to be tough to make a name for myself. I had to learn very early on who were true friends, who weren't true friends.

But honestly, like I think all in all, like I have an incredibly privileged life. And so I think saying that is like, oh, it's a hardship. It isn't really for me because it's like I've been so blessed with what I've been given by my parents and I'm never going to pretend I haven't been.

But honestly, like I think all in all, like I have an incredibly privileged life. And so I think saying that is like, oh, it's a hardship. It isn't really for me because it's like I've been so blessed with what I've been given by my parents and I'm never going to pretend I haven't been.

But honestly, like I think all in all, like I have an incredibly privileged life. And so I think saying that is like, oh, it's a hardship. It isn't really for me because it's like I've been so blessed with what I've been given by my parents and I'm never going to pretend I haven't been.

I used to lean too hard of, and this is something we've discussed a lot, too hard on the side of I would overshare consistently of like where I'd messed up, there are things that gone wrong because I wanted people to feel like I was a real human and not just like, you know, a figure or like a figment of my parents. And so I used to lean too hard on the oversharing side. And then I realized like,