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Phoebe Judge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4763 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin says he'd never sweated so much as he did when they went on stage that night, and that once they got going, he never wanted it to end.

Criminal
The Big Lie

They ended the set with a song they hoped would become their hit single, called Losers.

Criminal
The Big Lie

It was everything they had dreamed of.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And then, after the show, Gavin and Billy's lawyer pulled them aside.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin and Billy's lawyer had been asking them for their American passports for months and months.

Criminal
The Big Lie

They always told him they couldn't find them and that they'd get them to him later.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And then he saw the posts on the hip-hop forum after their appearance on MTV, saying that they were actually Gavin and Billy from Scotland, not Syllable and Brains from California.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Billy and Gavin kept touring and playing pack shows.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And their MySpace page started filling up with messages from fans.

Criminal
The Big Lie

They got an endorsement deal with a soda company.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin had developed a stomach ulcer.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin was barely talking to his family.

Criminal
The Big Lie

He says it took him out of character.

Criminal
The Big Lie

His girlfriend in Dundee had broken up with him after a visit during which he'd mostly spoken in an American accent.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And he and Billy were drifting apart.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Billy was going back to Scotland more often to visit his girlfriend.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And then he found out she was pregnant.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin says everything changed after that.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Billy had had enough.

Criminal
The Big Lie

I mean, how did you announce it to the fans?