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Phoebe Judge

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4763 total appearances

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Criminal
The Big Lie

Billy went back to Scotland and eventually got a job on an oil rig.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin stayed in London and tried to make it work without Billy.

Criminal
The Big Lie

But Sony stopped taking Gavin's calls.

Criminal
The Big Lie

He says it was hard to give up his American persona.

Criminal
The Big Lie

For a while, he worked for an American skate shoe company.

Criminal
The Big Lie

He spoke in an American accent when he applied, and they thought he was American.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And then, a couple of years after Syllable and Brains split up, Gavin heard that one of his closest friends from childhood had cancer.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And he decided to put on a show.

Criminal
The Big Lie

But right before Gavin was about to go on stage, he heard that his friend had died.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Billy and Gavin didn't speak for years.

Criminal
The Big Lie

But in 2012, they briefly got back together to record and finally release a Syllable and Brains album.

Criminal
The Big Lie

They called it Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Gavin went on to have his own music career.

Criminal
The Big Lie

He's working on an album right now.

Criminal
The Big Lie

And you're doing it all now in a Scottish accent.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Criminal is created by Lauren Spohr and me.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Nadia Wilson is our senior producer.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Katie Bishop is our supervising producer.

Criminal
The Big Lie

Our producers are Susanna Robertson, Jackie Zajico, Lily Clark, Lena Sillison, and Megan Kinane.