Phoebe Judge

Like, they have to stay up so late.

It was always... And now that I live on the East Coast and I'm East Coast time, it is very strange.

I still think about that.

You know what also dated maybe you and me?

We were in a pitch meeting the other day, and I brought up... I've been thinking about the Tylenol murders and how we wanted to do that story forever and that the...

The crime was interesting, I guess, but what was really interesting was the panic and how people changed people's, you know, shopping habits, changed how pill bottles, everything, the fallout of the crime.

And I started thinking about Jack in the Box.

Do you remember the Jack in the Box outbreak, the E. coli, that many people died?

And we were in this meeting, pitch meeting, and I said, I think it'd be really interesting to do something about Jack in the Box and how even to this day I would never go to Jack in the Box.

And I was shocked at how few people on the team knew about Jack in the Box.

Or just the big Jack in the Box story, which I feel is like seared into my mind.

Like a sort of nightmarish?

Yeah.

Yes.

I've never been, so I don't know how the food is.

But I think we may try to do a Jack in the Box story, again, focusing on, yes, the cover-up that the company tried to do, but also the fallout that happened.

You think about people just stopped going to this major, major chain because they didn't know, and they didn't know the mystery of why people were getting sick.

I think we're going to do the story.

I think there's so many different interesting angles for that story.

So we haven't recorded no interviews for that.