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Phoebe Judge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4765 total appearances

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Gil gave her an address in San Francisco and told her to meet him there the next evening at 8.30 p.m.

He told her not to tell the police.

Gil told Karen to meet him on the corner of Eddy and Hyde Street in downtown San Francisco.

When she got there, she saw Gil holding Amy.

Karen saw that he had cut Amy's hair and dyed it brown.

Karen got in the car with Amy and drove to a diner where Vinny was waiting.

Karen says she was worried Gil had followed her.

All three of them sat on one side of the booth so she and Vinny could face the door.

They had talked a few times about leaving California, but they knew it would be hard.

And Karen didn't know what Gil would do if they left town.

Karen and Vinny decided they would move somewhere far away, and they would change their names, so Gil couldn't track them down.

They agreed to leave as soon as possible.

Karen and Vinny got married quickly.

They cashed out their bank accounts and sold their cars and most of their things.

They bought a used Subaru and packed it with clothes, bedding, Aaron and Amy's toys, and a single pot and pan.

And then they put Amy and Aaron in the car and drove out of California.

They didn't know where they were going yet.

Karen had always said she needed to live by the ocean, and she thought Gil would look for them first on the coast.