Phoebe Simmons

It's a numbers game.

You've just got to get up.

Exactly.

But, you know, then someone said to me, but you only need one.

And I think that's really true.

You just need to find that one.

But it's very hard to find.

Yes, but I think just the way that you were able to articulate that, I wouldn't have been able to articulate that turning 33.

I hope I am now.

But that's great and I think that's the whole point, right?

It's like setting boundaries and things, whereas I was probably quite unmoored and just so keen to grab on to something.

So I would say I probably had less boundaries, but I learnt enough along the way.

It's going to be okay.

It can just happen on a dime.

And I think that the most, oh my gosh, this sounds very Sex and the City, doesn't it?

But like the most like important relationship that you can have is with yourself.

And the freedom and the independence that I had as a single person rather than being married with two kids is phenomenal.

completely different and so you have the opportunity to really invest in yourself and figure out what's really important to you and so the more time that you can be selfish and spend that time getting to know yourself I think the happier you will be regardless of your relationship status.

Yeah, they are years that you won't ever get back and you look on fondly and go, wow, I could just get up, jump on that plane and go travelling.

Oh, my gosh.