Pierce Eugene Walla

Yeah.

I mean, my background is really on the Marketo side of things.

You know, one of the biggest marketing automation platforms serving a lot of enterprise companies.

And I had a consultancy that did a lot of professional services in this space.

And everything

customer we worked with had the same issue around this problem.

So when we started Knack, it was really about helping Marketo customers with it.

But the more we got into it, we realized this is a way more widespread issue than just Marketo.

And when you launched the company.

Five years ago, we actually just had our fifth anniversary.

Yeah, that was, that was your best estimation.

And yeah, yeah.

So in the past, since we last spoke, really, we've been looking at diversifying our revenue and really looking to make NAC that platform agnostic platform.

So a lot of our growth is actually coming from other

marketing automation platforms, other tools that our enterprise customers use to communicate with their prospects and customers.

Yeah, for sure.

So we're seeing growth, Salesforce Marketing Cloud, Pardot, Oracle Responsys.

And then we're also just discovering all these new platforms, a lot of in-house platforms that our enterprise customers work with.

So when we last spoke, we kind of were in the middle of transitioning to become more of an enterprise focused platform.

Uh, when we last spoke, we still had like a $99 per month, a credit card product as well.