Pierre Asselin
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And in exchange for this, Hanoi gives the Americans their prisoners back. And that's pretty much all that... And a ceasefire, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a ceasefire. And then essentially all of this long enough to allow the Americans to get their prisoners back to disengage before the Vietnamese resume their civil war. And that's all that agreement is.
And in exchange for this, Hanoi gives the Americans their prisoners back. And that's pretty much all that... And a ceasefire, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a ceasefire. And then essentially all of this long enough to allow the Americans to get their prisoners back to disengage before the Vietnamese resume their civil war. And that's all that agreement is.
It's really kind of a... It's a military solution. It doesn't solve any of the political problems that... that are at the heart of the conflict on the Indo-Chinese peninsula.
It's really kind of a... It's a military solution. It doesn't solve any of the political problems that... that are at the heart of the conflict on the Indo-Chinese peninsula.
It's really kind of a... It's a military solution. It doesn't solve any of the political problems that... that are at the heart of the conflict on the Indo-Chinese peninsula.
Kissinger had a pretty good understanding that, I mean, this is beyond anybody's capacity to resolve, right? But for Kissinger, it's been made clear to him by Nixon that when he goes into these negotiations, first and foremost, he has to secure these American objectives, right? And then if he can lay some kind of foundation for, you know, an enduring peace in Vietnam, then great.
Kissinger had a pretty good understanding that, I mean, this is beyond anybody's capacity to resolve, right? But for Kissinger, it's been made clear to him by Nixon that when he goes into these negotiations, first and foremost, he has to secure these American objectives, right? And then if he can lay some kind of foundation for, you know, an enduring peace in Vietnam, then great.
Kissinger had a pretty good understanding that, I mean, this is beyond anybody's capacity to resolve, right? But for Kissinger, it's been made clear to him by Nixon that when he goes into these negotiations, first and foremost, he has to secure these American objectives, right? And then if he can lay some kind of foundation for, you know, an enduring peace in Vietnam, then great.
But fundamentally, Kissinger, his position in these talks is to make sure that these basic American conditions are met.
But fundamentally, Kissinger, his position in these talks is to make sure that these basic American conditions are met.
But fundamentally, Kissinger, his position in these talks is to make sure that these basic American conditions are met.
No, absolutely. And that's the thing. I mean, you know, when you consider what Nixon manages to achieve, right? He ends the war in Vietnam, and in the same instance, more or less, he makes peace with the Chinese and the Soviets. So... I mean, to me, right, the ability to engage Moscow and Beijing kind of offsets defeat in Vietnam. And Nixon did achieve peace with honor.
No, absolutely. And that's the thing. I mean, you know, when you consider what Nixon manages to achieve, right? He ends the war in Vietnam, and in the same instance, more or less, he makes peace with the Chinese and the Soviets. So... I mean, to me, right, the ability to engage Moscow and Beijing kind of offsets defeat in Vietnam. And Nixon did achieve peace with honor.
No, absolutely. And that's the thing. I mean, you know, when you consider what Nixon manages to achieve, right? He ends the war in Vietnam, and in the same instance, more or less, he makes peace with the Chinese and the Soviets. So... I mean, to me, right, the ability to engage Moscow and Beijing kind of offsets defeat in Vietnam. And Nixon did achieve peace with honor.
I mean, the mere fact that he got a signed agreement from this leadership in Hanoi, to me, it's almost miraculous. And fundamentally, it's a testament to the effectiveness of his strategies and tactics. And again, right, some of those tactics and strategies were extremely violent and caused a lot of deaths. But, you know, they were all meant to fulfill larger, long-term objectives.
I mean, the mere fact that he got a signed agreement from this leadership in Hanoi, to me, it's almost miraculous. And fundamentally, it's a testament to the effectiveness of his strategies and tactics. And again, right, some of those tactics and strategies were extremely violent and caused a lot of deaths. But, you know, they were all meant to fulfill larger, long-term objectives.
I mean, the mere fact that he got a signed agreement from this leadership in Hanoi, to me, it's almost miraculous. And fundamentally, it's a testament to the effectiveness of his strategies and tactics. And again, right, some of those tactics and strategies were extremely violent and caused a lot of deaths. But, you know, they were all meant to fulfill larger, long-term objectives.
And in that respect, I think that from a very, very kind of narrow standpoint, Nixon was successful in meeting his primary goals.
And in that respect, I think that from a very, very kind of narrow standpoint, Nixon was successful in meeting his primary goals.
And in that respect, I think that from a very, very kind of narrow standpoint, Nixon was successful in meeting his primary goals.