Pierre LeBrun

And right now, they're being proven right.

I mean, I don't think he's been very tested in these playoffs, but what I'm ultimately getting at is if, let's say Carolina wins the Cup, or for that matter, Vegas, who obviously brought in Carter Hartz,

The idea of spending huge on goaltending may very well be a thing of the past.

You know, how you figure out who to take flyers on and how to make, I mean, it's a science to itself, I think, now more than ever.

Yeah, that would surprise me.

Um, you know, I know that the lease really want to talk to a lot of different people.

They want to do a pretty wide search and like John Chayka wants to hear from different people and voices to see, to find out if you learn something through that process and may run into a candidate that he didn't have as high in his list when he started.

That makes any sense.

So I think you'll hear a lot of different names attached to Toronto, but, uh,

you know, it feels like the right time for Jay Woodcroft to get another crack.

And as you know, better than me, I don't actually think Ken Holland really want to fire him.

Oh, I don't think there's any question about that.

I mean, it's Jeff Jackson.

So yeah.

Yeah.

So, um, yeah, that'd be interesting.

Peter Labulette is starting to get more calls, um, LA among them.

So yeah, we'll see, uh, we'll see where it goes, but, uh,

You know, going back to the start of our conversation, I guess if you're a team with a coach opening, maybe just be a little more patient here.

It is a Sunday.