Piers Morgan

No, no, here's my point to you. My defense of them... Bloodthirsty dictator. Bloodthirsty dictator. My defense of them is based on the illegal invasion by Russia. You and I can argue about whether Russia was goaded and provoked into doing that. I do not think anything justifies what they actually did.

Well, how could we ever support that? Because ultimately... We're paying for that. Because ultimately, we have to make a calculation about whether we're happy with Russia invading what is a sovereign European democratic country.

Well, how could we ever support that? Because ultimately... We're paying for that. Because ultimately, we have to make a calculation about whether we're happy with Russia invading what is a sovereign European democratic country.

Well, how could we ever support that? Because ultimately... We're paying for that. Because ultimately, we have to make a calculation about whether we're happy with Russia invading what is a sovereign European democratic country.

Because we don't know. I mean, either he's allowed to take it or he isn't. Either we now say, yes, you take it. Why is it up to us? I don't understand. Well, who else can stop it?

Because we don't know. I mean, either he's allowed to take it or he isn't. Either we now say, yes, you take it. Why is it up to us? I don't understand. Well, who else can stop it?

Because we don't know. I mean, either he's allowed to take it or he isn't. Either we now say, yes, you take it. Why is it up to us? I don't understand. Well, who else can stop it?

Well, when Saddam invaded Kuwait, why did America go and support that? Because there's oil here. Did you support that?

Well, when Saddam invaded Kuwait, why did America go and support that? Because there's oil here. Did you support that?

Well, when Saddam invaded Kuwait, why did America go and support that? Because there's oil here. Did you support that?

Do you think looking back at it, was it right to do what America did with the Allies? British were there too? I don't know. Expel him from Kuwait? It wasn't a NATO country.

Do you think looking back at it, was it right to do what America did with the Allies? British were there too? I don't know. Expel him from Kuwait? It wasn't a NATO country.

Do you think looking back at it, was it right to do what America did with the Allies? British were there too? I don't know. Expel him from Kuwait? It wasn't a NATO country.

We take energy from Ukraine, though. This is an energy component to that.

We take energy from Ukraine, though. This is an energy component to that.

We take energy from Ukraine, though. This is an energy component to that.

No, but you've already said that you would support the expulsion of Saddam from Kuwait. I don't know that I would. Led by America. Well, you just said you did.

No, but you've already said that you would support the expulsion of Saddam from Kuwait. I don't know that I would. Led by America. Well, you just said you did.

No, but you've already said that you would support the expulsion of Saddam from Kuwait. I don't know that I would. Led by America. Well, you just said you did.

Right. So what's the difference between that and what's happened with Russia and Ukraine? Well, because we need Ukraine's energy. We need Ukraine's wheat. We do. 25% of the world's wheat comes out of Ukraine.