Piers Morgan

It doesn't matter who you're hating.

The moment you're in the hate game, then I think you're losing whatever argument is you're trying to have.

Maybe.

But you're not wrong about the state of it now.

I'll give an example.

What wouldn't have happened in the 60s and 70s with the NHS is what happened to both my parents recently.

So my mother had a heart attack and ended up being put on a trolley

in an accident and emergency unit but out on the corridor with 30 other people on trolleys it was Dickensian this was like a third world country yeah and she got hardly any treatment at all while she was there now when she eventually got up and this is the apex of the NHS for me laid bare when she eventually got into the heart unit she got incredible treatment

on the NHS, didn't cost her anything.

She got fixed up and repaired.

Turned out she had a blocked artery and she was home in 48 hours and was great.

My father broke six ribs recently.

Again, the same story, just waiting on trolleys and so on.

This is going on all the time because it cannot deal with the volume.

I don't think it is.

Really?

I certainly think we're about, listen, we'd certainly, I checked a few stats on the way here.

Yeah.

Oh, I bet you did.

For example, we back way above our strength in things like music.