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Tucker Puts Piers Morgan’s Views on Free Speech to the Ultimate Test

27 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the historical significance of Britain's past power?

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Whatever happened to Britain or the UK or England or whatever they're calling it? We can't even agree on what it's called, but... England, the England that if you're over 50, you grew up learning about, the England that controlled the world, the England that ran the largest empire in human history.

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At the end of World War I, Britain, which is an island in a pretty unhospitable climate, controlled literally a quarter of the Earth's surface and not controlled in the way the United States controls the rest of the world.

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with an implied threat or with economic ties to trade, but actually controlled with administrators and people sitting at desks with eye shades, counting things, like actually controlled a quarter of the Earth's surface. Way more than Rome, way more than the Mongols, way more than anybody ever, or maybe in the future, ever. Britain was the most powerful country in the history of the world.

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And then 25 years later, it was this kind of sad, soggy welfare state, which is to some extent what it still is, except maybe even a little bit worse. What happened? Well, there are a couple of levels I want you to think about this. First, it's just geopolitical.

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And I guess they spent a lot of money in these wars and the ruling, you know, half the class of Eton 1910 was killed in the trenches or whatever. You can think of a lot of different ways to explain what happened to Britain. The fact remains, however, they won the two biggest wars in human history. They won, and yet they're still greatly diminished and to some extent humiliated.

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It's like, what is that? So again, the first can be described, the first explanation can be described as, In economic terms, well, the United States took over. The British Empire just moved west to its child, the U.S. They just transferred the power and a lot of the gold to this new country, which had its systems and some of its customs. Okay. But there's something kind of deeper, actually.

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If that were the whole story, then Britain would still be recognizably Britain. The English people would still be recognizably English. They would just be not in charge anymore. They would have less money and less power, but the country would be, by any conventional measurement, thriving, just not running the Bahamas and Hong Kong, you know, Pakistan and But that's not what's happened, actually.

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After winning the two biggest wars in human history, Britain has shrunken, not just physically, but in some way that's hard to describe. Its culture has changed. Some might say has been destroyed, and it's become something completely different. And what is that? And by the way, why does it matter what it is? Well, it matters because what's happened to Britain, to England,

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is also happening to many countries in the West. Certainly its heirs, the Anglosphere, and that specifically would be Australia, New Zealand, the United States, Canada, Ireland. It's happening to those countries, but it's also happening to the rest of Western Europe all at the same time. A bunch of different profound events never seen before phenomenon are happening to all of those countries.

Chapter 2: What geopolitical factors contributed to Britain's decline?

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And the woman you saw is not the only person who's been arrested for doing it. So clearly we're watching a spiritual phenomenon here. I mean, there's sort of no arguing it once you see things like that. But what is that spiritual phenomenon and what are its effects on the people of this country? And before we go farther, we should just say

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that if you visit the the uk as it's now called or london its capital and completely dominant city the first thing you'll notice is actually pretty nice london is the nice parts of london are as nice or maybe even nicer than any city in the united states certainly nicer than any city in canada or australia much nicer actually it's a great city filled with lots of happy people

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But broadly speaking, this country has changed really, really dramatically, and it's changed in ways that are recognizable. And here's what you recognize. The people of Great Britain are going through a series of crises, and they're all internal. Drug use, alcohol use, their appearance has changed. People are no longer as well kept. The streets, the landscape changed. is not tidy anymore.

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It's got lots of litter and graffiti in some places. And to technocrats, these are not meaningful measures of anything. Who cares if you've got graffiti? Does that affect GDP? Well, maybe, maybe not. But it's definitely a reflection of how people feel about themselves.

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People with self-respect do not tolerate public displays of disorder or filth or graffiti or litter because they care about themselves and their family. And they understand intuitively, as every human being does, that once you allow chaos and filth in your immediate environment, you are diminished. So you just don't allow that and no healthy society does.

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But all through the West, these are not just features, they're defining features. All Western cities are filled with litter and graffiti and people who look like they didn't bother to get dressed this morning, but are instead wearing their pajamas in Walmart. It's not just in your town, it's everywhere in what we refer to as the West.

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The point that underlies all of this is a really obvious one that too few people say. This is the behavior of a defeated people. This is what it looks like when you lose. This is what it looks like when you're on your way out to be replaced by somebody else. This is what it looks like to be an American Indian.

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Now, one thing nobody in the United States ever says about the American Indians, except in the kind of pro forma white guilt way, is these weren't just impressive people. And no, they didn't write the Constitution before we did.

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These were some of the most impressive people, most self-reliant, most dignified breed, any account of early American settlers, people who were pushing West, who came into contact with Indians. And yes, were often scalped and forced to rethrow their own genitals and roasted over open fires. I mean, these were cruel people.

Chapter 3: How has British culture changed after the wars?

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And it makes you realize, especially if you travel a lot, that the problem is not necessarily the immigrants. The problem is what mass migration does to the people who already live there. They're the victims of it in a way that, again, is hard to measure and sometimes hard to notice, but totally real. So you walk through this city, London.

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And it's been completely transformed by immigration completely. And the numbers are really, really clear. 100 years ago was 100% European white. Now it's less than 40%. Okay, that's massive, unprecedented demographic change. Got it. And the immigrant areas are absolutely poorer than the traditionally white English areas. Absolutely. There's just no question about it.

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But wealth as measured by the government is not the only measurement. Actually, and this is true in the United States too, lots of immigrants who have a lot less money than the native population seem a lot more balanced and happy, both because this is a huge upgrade for them just in terms of like annual income and standard of living, but it's more than that. They're not defeated.

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They don't hate themselves. And if you have traditional nationalist opinions in the United States, I can confirm this personally, you're never going to be stopped on the street and screamed at by some Guatemalan who's like, you are racist for having your views on immigration. No, they'll probably agree with you actually.

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The only people who ever get mad at you are the people who already hate themselves. And that's always famously some private equity wife or somebody who should be happy about how things are going because they're in the portion of the population that's benefiting from it, but they're not happy. They're angry. What is that? That exact same thing is going on in this country. Exact.

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And it's part of a very recognizable syndrome. And it's the most destructive of all. History is just filled with examples of people who get invaded and clubbed to death and have their women stolen from them. And they're fine. They're fine. It's the people who feel defeated inside who no longer exist. And that is happening to the West. And it's measurable.

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What other society hates its own national symbols? It's only happening in the West. Only in Great Britain... This is coming to be true in the United States. It's already true in Canada and Australia. What other country finds it embarrassing to fly their national flag? What are you saying if that embarrasses you? You don't hate the flag. You hate yourself.

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And it's obvious because people who have dignity, self-respect, who believe in their own civilization want to continue it. How do you do that? By talking about it a lot? No. By continuing it through reproduction. No one is preventing the West from reproducing. And people have come up with these conspiracy theories like, oh, they're doing it. No, we're doing it to ourselves. What else is abortion?

Chapter 4: What does the arrest for praying outside an abortion clinic signify?

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It's only about stopping you from having more of you. And is there anything that's a clearer, crystal clear reason representation of how you feel about yourself than how you feel about having kids. And by the way, it's not just because they're selfish and they want to go on vacation and don't want to pay for children or they're worried about how much it might cost.

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Notice that none of these impoverished immigrants living on SNAP and housing subsidies, they don't seem worried about it at all because they know it'll be fine. By the way, most of the time it will be fine. They're having kids when much more affluent natives are not Because they believe in themselves and their culture, their civilization. They'd like to see it continue.

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It's the most basic of all human desires. So here in Great Britain, which has about a 40% abortion rate, 40% of all conceived children are killed. Who's doing that? It's not the immigrants. Because they don't hate themselves. They're not defeated. They're ascendant. And so they can see the future. They know that they may not live to experience it. But they're still fully human.

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And they know you plant the tree not because you can bask in its shade, but because your grandchildren will. This is the most obvious of all human instincts and the most basic. But the native population in Britain is not debating abortion because it's not even a debate here. Everyone agrees it's just an affirmative good, of course, to eliminate your own people. Absolutely.

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Again, no one's making them do this. They've decided to do it themselves. But now their most enthusiastic campaign is, is for state-sponsored suicide. They've already done this in Canada. It'll come to the United States. What is that? That's an entire people saying, we should exit the stage. Our time is done. It's over. Let's go. Someone else will take our place.

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Not the first time that's ever happened. This is what defeated people do. This is what happens when you break people inside. And maybe it'll just reach its terminus. Maybe there's no way to stop it. The great replacement theory. Yeah. Theory. Okay. No, it's the realest thing there is.

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And it's happening not because unseen hands are orchestrating it, though they are, but because the native peoples of all these countries are participating in it enthusiastically and then enforcing its rules against anyone who questions it. So in Great Britain, if you were to say, wait, what the hell is this? This looks nothing like the country I grew up in. Guess who's going to arrest you?

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Your fellow Britons, the ones whose great grandparents lived here, the whites, they're the ones enforcing this. They're the ones totally determined to eliminate themselves. Hate to brag, but we're pretty confident this show is the most vehemently pro-dog podcast you're ever going to see. We can take or leave some people, but dogs are non-negotiable. They are the best.

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Chapter 5: How does Piers Morgan view the impact of language on free speech?

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I mean, half our staff was gay. They're great people. And they're the only ones who ever said, faggot. He's a faggot. I'd be like, ugh. I have no need to say the word. Actually, it's kind of an ugly word, to be totally honest.

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But you know the argument they use, which is- Well, they don't use it. They use the word constantly. I've worked with them my whole life. Well, I wrote a column, for example, about the use of- But I'm not allowed to use it, but you are. I don't play those games, dude. Listen, I'm going to make a point. I wrote a column for the Mail, actually, about the use of the N-word.

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And the Washington Post did a huge report on this and said that every day on Twitter, as it was then- The N-word was used half a million times, but almost exclusively by young African-American men.

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So it's cool.

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3451.827 - 3457.275 Piers Morgan

Well, they would argue, and I understood the argument. They've reclaimed that word.

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I don't believe in universal rights either. I think certain standards should apply to certain people based on their blood, but don't apply to everybody.

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What do you mean? I mean, that's what you're saying, dude. The standards have to be absolute or they're not standard. I was about to make my argument.

Chapter 6: What arguments are made about the reclamation of offensive words?

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Sorry, you're getting me so wound up. No, no, but I actually made the point in the column that I don't think that works. I don't think you reclaim it. What you actually do is you empower genuine racists to say, well, if they're using that word, I'm going to use it. And so I felt it was an entirely self-defeating reclamation of that offensive word. I would say the same to gay people.

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If you constantly use the F word in your own... What's the F word? You know what? We've just been saying it. If you want to keep saying it, you keep saying it. I'm not going to keep saying it. It's worse than fuck, isn't it? To a gay person, from a straight person, yes.

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From a straight person, but not from the gay person? That's my point.

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I understand the reclamation argument that they put up. Reclamation? That they're reclaiming the word and they're disempowering it. That's fine. I don't care.

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Chapter 7: How do societal standards influence language use?

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I think that's kind of amusing, actually. I just don't think it works. I think the more these words get used, then the more... But is it really about words? I guess that's kind of what I'm saying. I think it empowers people who are genuinely racist or homophobic to then use those words.

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Okay, they're genuinely racist or homophobic. I don't care. Why don't you pick up the trash? Okay, that's kind of how I feel. And stop letting people from countries where they can't speak English come to your country by the millions. Don't the material things matter? Don't the actual things matter? Your father lying on a cot in a public hospital?

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I do think that people, when they come to a country, should try and learn the language.

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Of course. No, but again, I'm not attacking anybody. I'm just saying the whole debate about what words are allowed and by whom...

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is first of all insane because again standards mean nothing unless they apply to everyone because we believe in human rights not group rights or ethnic rights we're against that because we're against the nazis right so there's that but it's also a distraction from what actually matters if your dad is spending hours i'm sure he was a he was a britain he spent his whole life here paying taxes and that's what he gets

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It's completely unacceptable. But it is acceptable. That's the problem. Instead, we're arresting that girl for saying faggot. Or as we say here, the F word.

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Like I said, I don't know that story. I'll look into it. Does she look like a faggot user to you?

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She looks too nice.

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Come on. No, I can't. I know you can't.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of immigration on British culture?

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Huh? Do you say gay and retard?

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I say gay. I wouldn't use the R word.

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I personally wouldn't. Do you think it should be legal to abort a Down syndrome baby? I'm exercising my free speech right not to use that word.

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I totally agree. I actually don't use the N-word ever because I think it's ugly. So by your own petard, you're being wasted. I kind of agree. I'm mostly making fun to make a point. I actually think that... We should not kill people because they have Down syndrome. I think they're beautiful people.

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And I think when you get to heaven, it'll probably fill people with Down syndrome because they are pure in spirit. And I'm not joking even a tiny bit. I really believe that. But people who think it's okay to genocide everyone with Down syndrome through that alpha-fetoprotein test are lecturing me because I'm using the word retard. It's like, maybe we're missing the real argument.

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That's all I'm saying. Does that make sense?

3677.611 - 3687.985 Piers Morgan

It does, although I'm pro a woman's right to choose what to do with her body. Including aborting someone because he's retarded? Well, in this country, to be clear, abortion is a very settled issue.

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George Galloway doesn't believe it.

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