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Pieter Levels

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2088 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

I think it's best to start and just start asking people for money in the beginning. So show your app, like what are you doing on your landing page? Like make a demo or whatever, a video. And then if you want to use it, pay me money. Pay $10, $20, $30. I would ask more than $10 per month. Like Netflix, like $10 per month. But Netflix is a giant company.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

They can afford to make it so cheap, relatively cheap. If you're an individual, like an indie hacker, like you are making your own app, you need to make like at least $30 or more on a user to make it worthy for you. You need to make money, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

They can afford to make it so cheap, relatively cheap. If you're an individual, like an indie hacker, like you are making your own app, you need to make like at least $30 or more on a user to make it worthy for you. You need to make money, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

They can afford to make it so cheap, relatively cheap. If you're an individual, like an indie hacker, like you are making your own app, you need to make like at least $30 or more on a user to make it worthy for you. You need to make money, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Also, yeah, making a community, like making a Discord is very normal now. Every AI app has a Discord and you have the developers and the users together in like a Discord and they talk about, they ask for features, they build together. It's very normal now. And you need to imagine, like if you're starting out, getting a thousand users is quite difficult. Getting a thousand pages is quite difficult.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Also, yeah, making a community, like making a Discord is very normal now. Every AI app has a Discord and you have the developers and the users together in like a Discord and they talk about, they ask for features, they build together. It's very normal now. And you need to imagine, like if you're starting out, getting a thousand users is quite difficult. Getting a thousand pages is quite difficult.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Also, yeah, making a community, like making a Discord is very normal now. Every AI app has a Discord and you have the developers and the users together in like a Discord and they talk about, they ask for features, they build together. It's very normal now. And you need to imagine, like if you're starting out, getting a thousand users is quite difficult. Getting a thousand pages is quite difficult.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And if you charge them like $30, you have 30K a month. That's a lot of money. That's enough to like... Live a good life.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And if you charge them like $30, you have 30K a month. That's a lot of money. That's enough to like... Live a good life.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And if you charge them like $30, you have 30K a month. That's a lot of money. That's enough to like... Live a good life.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Yeah, so that's another thing. I make sure my profit margins are very high. So I try to keep the cost very low. I don't hire people. I try to negotiate with like AI vendors now. Like, can you make it cheaper, you know? Which is, I discovered this. You can just email companies and say, can you give me a discount? Because it's too expensive. And they say, sure, 50%. I'm like, wow, very good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Yeah, so that's another thing. I make sure my profit margins are very high. So I try to keep the cost very low. I don't hire people. I try to negotiate with like AI vendors now. Like, can you make it cheaper, you know? Which is, I discovered this. You can just email companies and say, can you give me a discount? Because it's too expensive. And they say, sure, 50%. I'm like, wow, very good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Yeah, so that's another thing. I make sure my profit margins are very high. So I try to keep the cost very low. I don't hire people. I try to negotiate with like AI vendors now. Like, can you make it cheaper, you know? Which is, I discovered this. You can just email companies and say, can you give me a discount? Because it's too expensive. And they say, sure, 50%. I'm like, wow, very good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I didn't know this. You can just ask. And especially in like, like now it's kind of recession. You can ask companies like, I need a discount or I kind of need to like, you don't need to be an asshole about it, say. You know, I kind of need a discount or I need to go maybe to another company. So maybe like there's a discount like here and there. And they say, sure. A lot of them will say yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I didn't know this. You can just ask. And especially in like, like now it's kind of recession. You can ask companies like, I need a discount or I kind of need to like, you don't need to be an asshole about it, say. You know, I kind of need a discount or I need to go maybe to another company. So maybe like there's a discount like here and there. And they say, sure. A lot of them will say yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

And I didn't know this. You can just ask. And especially in like, like now it's kind of recession. You can ask companies like, I need a discount or I kind of need to like, you don't need to be an asshole about it, say. You know, I kind of need a discount or I need to go maybe to another company. So maybe like there's a discount like here and there. And they say, sure. A lot of them will say yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Like 25% discount, 50% discounts. Because you think the price on the website is the price of the API or something. It's not like, you know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Like 25% discount, 50% discounts. Because you think the price on the website is the price of the API or something. It's not like, you know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Like 25% discount, 50% discounts. Because you think the price on the website is the price of the API or something. It's not like, you know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#440 โ€“ Pieter Levels: Programming, Viral AI Startups, and Digital Nomad Life

Oh, that helps also.