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PJ Vogt

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Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Spring 2009, the team tries actual, real road driving for the first time.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Chris Urmson takes one of the Priuses out on the Central Expressway.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Speed limit, 45 miles per hour.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

There are humans driving here.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And immediately, outside the confines of the empty parking lot and empty airplane runway, here's what's clear.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

They had a real problem.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The car was swerving wildly.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

One more problem to fix.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Listening to this story, it's funny because I can imagine it giving me a totally different feeling than it does.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

A tech company with nobody's permission was testing driverless cars on public roads in California.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I don't know why that strikes me as being about invention instead of just hubris and impunity.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Maybe it's because I know that Google would be one of the few tech companies whose driverless cars would not cause any fatal accidents in testing.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

and that the team would just take more safety precautions than the other companies who'd rush in later to catch up with them once this was an arms race.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The way these cars were designed, the safety driver sat behind the steering wheel, ready to take over.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In the other seat was their partner, watching the monitor displaying a graphical interface designed by Dmitry Dolgov.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The people watching the screen would call out problems ahead, some discrepancy between what the sensors were seeing and what was actually in the road.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

This is what teaching a car to drive actually looked like.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Two-person teams manning the cars, logging errors, going back to the office to troubleshoot, and then updating the code.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I asked Don Burnett about this era.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And while you're doing this and then like you leave work and you get in your car that you drive as a human, did you find yourself thinking more carefully like, how do I know what I know when I'm driving?