PJ Vogt

People had a lot of questions about whether he was paying taxes, about his money.

And so I remember the moment that his tax return was published.

I remember the reporting that you guys did about just sort of the way the wealthy were engaging in tax avoidance.

At the time of that reporting, as you were working on it, what was your sort of like...

if you'd stopped and thought, I don't know if you did, but like the best case scenario of like Trump's tax return is going to come to light.

All these other people's tax strategies are going to come to light.

Like what was the like hopeful outcome of what all that could mean?

And so I think one of the feelings I just as a person who wonders about the inner lives of other people, including the president, one of the things I'd wondered about was like, honestly, like, did he care?

You know what I mean?

I was like, does he care?

Can you tell me about the nudes this week?

So tell me about why that's extraordinary.

Tell me about the lawsuit.

Like, what was unusual about the lawsuit?

So he, the private citizen, is suing the government, but he's essentially, he's on both sides of that lawsuit.

Right.

Because, like, in theory, if I were, like...

got in over my head on my buying designer button-up shirts on eBay habit.

And I was in trouble.

And I sued Search Engine, the business that I co-run, and then went to court.