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PJ Vogt

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
13769 total appearances

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Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

A bicycle?

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

During that time spent wondering, the car did not slow down.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Soon after Elaine Hertzberg's death, Uber halted its testing program.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

We reached out to Uber for comment.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

A spokesperson said that the fatal collision was indeed a tragedy, which had a significant impact on Uber and the entire industry.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

There would be other competitors who would shut down after similar accidents.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

There would also be Tesla, which by 2020 was publicly marketing a product the company called full self-driving, but which absolutely was not.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Meanwhile, Waymo had slowly continued to develop its tech.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Their robotaxis would be ready for riders by 2020.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The team had gotten an unexpected boost from a technology that was, at the time, very little understood.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In 2026, when most people talk about artificial intelligence, the conversation defaults to products like ChatGPT and Claude.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

But artificial intelligence has been a core part of driverless cars going back two decades.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In the 2010s, neural net advances meant that you could now begin to feed a computer system large amounts of data and watch as its perception, prediction, and decision-making abilities improved.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Here's Sebastian Thrunn.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

That technology of massive data training was with us from the get-go, but has become more and more and more and more important.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The surprise for all of us has been that size matters.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

When you put a million documents into an AI, it's fine.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

100 million is fine.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

But when you put 100 billion documents into an AI, it is unbelievably smart.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And that, I think, shocked everybody, myself included.