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PJ Vogt

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

In your reporting, you focus on Microsoft, but the sense I got is that the authorities were also focusing on Microsoft, that of all the sort of dots on the map that they could pay attention to, it almost, I got the sense that at some point they were almost like playing God with him and like Old Testament God with him in a really unusual way.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

And the idea is that the more they fuck with him, the more he has to reach out to other people to do more business with.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

And he's like a barium that is going through this criminal network and they're going to see more and more of it.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

It's just funny.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

I've had spells in my life where I felt

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

like something beyond me was confounding every, like every time I needed luck to work out, it didn't.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

But it's never been the case that there was actually someone pulling the strings to mess with me.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

It's just strange to think that once for someone that was actually the case.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

So Microsoft, how does Microsoft find out?

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

Does he find out from the press conference?

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

Like at what point does he finally realize like, oh, the thing everyone was saying to me was in fact true?

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

As criminals all over the world were arrested, suspicions grew.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

But nobody knew for sure that Anam was an FBI operation until that gleeful San Diego press conference with the U.S.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

attorney announcing the program's success and finally closing the trap.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

According to Joseph, part of the FBI's calculation for ending the operation, weirdly, had just been due to the overwhelming success of Anam.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

Towards the end, so many criminals were on the network, sending so many millions of texts, that for the government, just monitoring them and preventing murders was beginning to require too much manpower.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

So, after about three years of running Anam, that's why the FBI decided to shut it down.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

By the time of that press conference announcing the trap, over 800 arrests had been made.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

But I was surprised to learn that Microsoft and his buddy, Hakan Ayyek, were not among them.

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What's the best phone to do crimes on? (classic)

Despite being high-value targets, they'd slip the net, at least at first.