PJ Vogt

Yeah.

And I mean, this is what I wanted to ask you is like, why can't someone else, presumably someone in the United States or in China, do what Taiwan does?

What you're talking about is, it's a story about people.

It's like you have all this expertise, all these people who've been getting better and better and better at doing things alongside each other.

And the things they know how to do, the sort of process knowledge they have is integrated with process knowledge that other people around them have.

Yeah.

Why?

Wait, because why?

So, like, what is cool about the American education system is that we treat our students often, for the most part, as people who get a lot of time to ultimately figure out what they're going to do as adults.

But then you have, like, people like me who graduate college with a degree in, like, semiotics or whatever or drive out of college with a degree in semiotics.

What you're saying is that the Taiwanese education system is, like—

For a lot of people, we know what this country is doing really, really well right now.

And we're going to start pointing you at that and specializing you at that at a way earlier time horizon.

Because in the United States, vocational school exists, but it's not aimed at highly, highly lucrative jobs necessarily.

But I'm imagining that chip manufacturing in Taiwan is a highly lucrative job.

And so you have people specializing earlier, and there's sort of like social upside to that.

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