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PJ Vogt

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Carib somehow gets mistranslated to cannib.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And cannibal becomes, like, what the cannibs do.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So this is really, like, while there was an idea that it was bad to eat people before this, we had a different name for them.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Like, cannibal goes to this moment.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Hmm.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

But this whole story is just rife with, like, mistranslation, misunderstanding.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And so we don't know what really happened.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Like, did Columbus make all this up?

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Were the Caribs actually ritually eating their captured enemies?

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Were the Arawaks making this up to get Columbus to go after their enemies?

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Like, there's just a lot of debate here even today.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

But what's important is Columbus told people that on these islands, some of the locals were dangerous and that they would eat his men.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

I think it was just sort of like...

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

a particularly bad way to die in their minds?

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Because I agree.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Like for me, I'm like, I'd prefer not to be killed.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

After being killed, being eaten would be like a tertiary concern probably.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

I think there's a lot of evidence that that is what is going on here.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Because what ends up happening is Queen Isabella, who has, like, sent Columbus on this journey, when she gets the reports back that some of these people eat people, she says that he's allowed to treat the cannibals differently from the other locals.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Ooh, I see.