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PJ Vogt

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

1493, Christopher Columbus lands in Guadalupe, which at the time he would call Santa Maria de Guadalupe.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

He's on his second voyage to the New World.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

According to this one book I read called Cannibalism, A Perfectly Natural History by Bill Shutt,

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Columbus's prime directive, like his mission from Spain, was to find gold in the islands.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

I don't know why this belief was propagated, but the Europeans believed that silver was found in cold places and gold was found in hot places.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So according to their logic, it stood to reason this expedition was going to yield lots and lots of gold.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So he arrives with an army of 17 ships, lots of well-armed men, and he reports back to his sponsors in Spain that there's this one group of native people called the Arawaks.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And according to Columbus, these Arawaks, they are great.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

He writes that the Arawaks, quote, are fitted to be ruled and to be set to work, to cultivate the land and do all else that may be necessary.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

But, according to Columbus, the Arawaks warn that there's this other group on certain southern islands, and this group is not as nice.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

They're called the Caribs.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

The Caribs do not want to be ruled.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

They're ready to fight.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And Columbus says that the Arawaks warn him, if the Caribs beat you in battle, they might eat you.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Columbus writes, quote,

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Thus I have found no monsters, nor had a report of any, except in an island, Carib, which is the second coming into the Indies, and which is inhabited by a people who are regarded in all the islands as very fierce and who eat human flesh.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Yes, exactly.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

And, like, some of them he seems like they're going to be helpful.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

Some of them are not.

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Why don’t we eat people? (classic)

So these locals are called Caribs.