Prof. Paul Glue

you're getting much less blood sent around the body and there's a risk that your heart will just stop.

Then unless you've got somebody sitting right next to you with some epinephrine and a set of paddles, you are officially dead.

They're probably somewhere between 30 and 40 deaths.

But in general, nor-Ibogaine should do exactly what Ibogaine does.

We had a lot of staff on board, so it was a very busy ward.

And then gave them either norebogaine or placebo.

And we waited to see how quickly they went into opiate withdrawal.

their pupils start to dilate, they get the sniffles, they get goose pimples all over their arms, their blood pressure goes up, their heart rate goes up.

And there are these great scales where you can show how bad the withdrawal is by just sort of totting up all these symptoms and getting a score on them.

There was no difference between placebo and norepinephrine.

As a non-starter, FDA simply wouldn't approve it.

It is what it is.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's 30 milligrams per kilogram.

It's reckless.

It's just crazy.

It's a really high dose.

And I'm pleased that no one died in that experiment.

But let's say it's not one of science's high points.