Professor Ian Langford

So explaining that is really important.

The next is critical infrastructure.

So, you know, energy policy is technology policy is national security policy.

So a data center going into a certain area needs to be, you know, complimented by sufficient government and private sector investment in things like energy to make that technology system work as a value add, as opposed to a value extraction exercise by the foreign entity that might own it.

And then the other element, of course, is how do we as Australia build the kind of capacity and scale to be able to compete effectively to safeguard our national interests?

So, you know, nationalizing fuel supply chains, which we've seen since this current crisis in Iran sort of become a, you know, very much a focus of government.

How do we bring the same level of conversation around what resilience looks like, which part of that system that we need to nationalize in order to own, and

to be able to go and bring that technology front of mind into our version of ourselves in the future that will be the best version of ourselves.

And there's no healthy future for Australia that doesn't see us warehouse technology, that doesn't see us harness AI and doesn't see us use technology

the tremendous talent in our workforce to be able to build the kind of wealth creation that needs to happen through those technologies and additive elements of what will define us going forward.

So there's no alternate.

We have to do this and we've got to do it as a priority.

Absolutely.

So there's two elements to this, coming back to the social licence, social contract dimension.

You know, we know Australians are concerned about privacy.

We also, we know they're concerned around safeguards as it relates to the, you know, the reuse and distribution of

of information for other purposes.

And so being able to onshore that, being able to effectively lock it down, gives the kind of assurance to our citizens that will make them more confident that when they share data, it's done so for the appropriate reasons.

The other element of things like copyright and how do we make sure our creative and art sectors can maintain their livelihood, frankly, in the first instance, but also how we can enjoy the benefits of that work in the context of

our nation state and what we own and what we have privilege to have sovereignty over both in the public and private sphere.