Professor Katriona O'Sullivan

You can tell what's right from what's going on in the world.

I think that we are driven to grow towards the light.

I think that that's in us biologically, that we're driven towards good.

I don't know if we know what that is, but I do think we're driven to right ourselves.

We're also driven to die as well, which is ironic.

So when you say, do you contemplate human life?

I always think like the contrast between we're all dying and we're all, all of our selves are dying, but yet all of ourselves are trying to live at the same time.

That's the mad shit that goes on in my head.

But like, so I believe that we are born with an awareness of good and we're driven to be good.

Yeah.

I genuinely do.

And I don't mean good as in like kind, caring people.

I mean like health.

Like we, biologically, we want the optimum environment in order to thrive.

And we kind of know what that is.

So like a loving home, food, warmth.

But for humans, we also have a need for connection.

Be it more than animals.

So, like, it's the need for love and connection.

Yeah, exactly.