Professor Katriona O'Sullivan

Like when that flush of feeling comes in, when you see your baby for the first time, like our body releases the endorphins so that we love our babies.

Yes.

And I didn't, couldn't control that.

Because you can't control what's deeply damaged within you.

No matter how much will you put on it, if you are broken...

And if your self-esteem is so low and your pain is so deep, no matter how much will you have and want, you cannot control that.

Like this big fire lived in my belly that was driving my behavior.

Like this big hurt person that thought, pissy pants, you're to blame, men are bad.

They do this to you because you've done something.

Now you're a teenage mother and they were getting public.

And I've left school and I haven't got any qualifications because I'm not very clever.

I want to be good.

I always say this when I do my talks, Ray.

Every person wants to be good.

And I cry for myself when I say that.

There was these two girls I sat next to in school called Annette and Suzanne.

They were good girls.

Ray, they put their hands up to answer the questions.

If I was asked, I'd tell the teacher to fuck off.

and I used to look at them and I