Professor Katriona O'Sullivan

And what that's done in the world is created people who can get into leadership.

who are really harmful.

And for me, I'm like, oh my God, we need to be compassionate and talking about access to education and restricting what people get access to online and things like that.

So I'm a bit terrible at my, I suppose my, my hope is that, is that what you're saying?

My hope, my hope is that the good will continue to shine.

I think how I have to look at the world.

I told you I'm driven to see the negative ray.

I have to believe, I have to be hopeful that I'm,

good will will win in whatever context we we think about i do know that this last two years with the book like i i walk around like with that little girl beside me in front of me inside of me and she still has them thoughts you know the world is not a good place and people are not kind but like ray

I have had messages from thousands and thousands of people of love and care.

So while the world looks dark, it depends on your position.

And my position is, while there's a lot of darkness over there, in here and in my space,

there's so many people showing me how much love there is so i choose to believe that that will continue to to grow and people will continue to try to do the right things but i think technology i'm really scared that's why i run a program i run a program trying to train people especially disadvantaged people about ai so i run a we've got an initiative we run called the ai academy for good and we're going out to like we're in prisons we're in and we're just teaching people about information online data ai and and what they're presented with because we really need

to be mindful that because we've underserved for so long, there is like this whole group of people that can be galvanised to harm.

Yeah, education is not about jobs.

That's what we pitch it as.

We pitch it as it being about the economy and about the market.

It's not about that.

Like Ray, the gift of education is to be able to think critically about the world and see it.

I feel so blessed to be able to think about information and critically evaluate.