Professor Katriona O'Sullivan

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like that is what my childhood left me.

It does serve me well because I know when an arsehole is around straight away.

The hard thing is, Ray, is that, I don't mean an arsehole, but like say I'm in a room, right, and someone is just not kind and I know it.

And then my friend is there and she's like, oh my God.

he's such a nice guy.

And I'm like, he's a dick.

He's a dick.

Like, how can you not see this?

But also I can't always trust that because I'm hardwired to see the negative.

So I'm hardwired to see that.

And so I have to like watch myself with that all the time.

And it's really affected my relationships over the years because before therapy, I just believed it.

And so it's

you know, if you're looking for the bad, you will definitely see it.

And it's not a choice to look for it.

But if you're looking for, because everybody's fallible, everyone does bad things, right?

You could have a tone with me because you're tired and you don't want to do this interview and it's been forced on you.