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Professor Polly Lowe

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The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So we know that this happens in a couple of communities on the island of Euboea, which is Athens, the island just to the east of Athens.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

We know that this happens on Samos.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Later on, it's what happens to Mytilene.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And then either the Athenians rent back that land to the original owners who stay there and farm it, but have to pay Athens for the privilege of doing so.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Or they send out settlers, Athenians, who go and then live in those communities.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And so they become effectively settlers.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

a bit like a sort of garrison because these are now Athenian men who are living in that place.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So it's a win-win for the Athenians because they get the financial benefit of having this land, but also they secure their hold over those places because there's a bunch of Athenians living there.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Yeah, so the distinction, the sort of technical distinction is that a cleric would still be an Athenian citizen.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So a colonist, sort of standard model, forms an entirely new community and is a citizen of that new community and then gives up their citizenship of their original community.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

The Athenians do found at least one colony.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

in this period that we know about, or maybe a little bit later that we know about.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

But a cleric, it's a bit more temporary, so it could be that they're not permanently resident there.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So they own property.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

They'd probably go out and farm that property, but they would also still be an Athenian and be able to go back to Athens and they'd fight.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

If they were fighting, they'd be fighting as part of an Athenian army and not, say, a Samian army.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

There's lots of activity in the Black Sea.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Again, not...

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

at all well recorded by Thucydides, but we hear about this in Plutarch's Life of Pericles.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

That's important because it's quite hard to square that with the original terms of the Delian League, but that's something that very obviously benefits Athens, as I've already mentioned.