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Professor Polly Lowe

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The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Black Sea, really important in terms of grain supply, one of Athens' ongoing

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

needs in this period, really throughout its history, is that it can't grow enough grain to feed its own population.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So it has to import grain.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So getting good access to Black Sea grain is really important for the Athenians.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So there's that going on.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

There's this colony up in the North Aegean, a place we don't exactly know where it is, but we know that a colony was founded up there.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

That's another strategically important place for the Athenians.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

I think, strictly speaking, probably not.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

In that, insofar as we can reconstruct the quite complicated finances of this operation,

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

The Athenians at least sort of launder the money, the Athenian league money a bit before they use it to build the Parthenon.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

But it could well be that it's separate.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

It's not the tribute money.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

It's a different stash of Athena's money that is used directly to fund the building of the Parthenon and the other stuff on the Acropolis.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

But you could say, well, the reason they've got that spare money is because they're using the tribute money

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

to fund other bits of Athens' economy.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So ultimately, they probably couldn't have afforded to do it if they didn't have the cushion provided by the tribute money.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Plutarch's life of Pericles is brilliant on this, and that really goes all in on saying this is the most scandalous thing that Pericles specifically, and then the Athenians, because they did what Pericles wanted, did.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

was spending this money to, and he uses the analogy of prostitution, of sort of spending this money and tarting Athens up.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And this is the most unseemly use of this money that was given for this good cause.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And they're just blowing it all on fancy stuff in the center of Athens.