Quinta Jurecic
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first heard Feb 2025
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We would just like you to change it. And that is a real distinction from how Vance is talking. And I think what that points to is, you know, these are big, complicated organizations. There are a lot of points of friction along the way. This isn't a situation where Vance or Trump or Musk can kind of wave their hand and say, go ahead, defy a court order.
You need a Justice Department attorney in the courtroom or filing those briefs to, you know, be willing to stand there and get chewed out by the judge and potentially lose their bar card over these things.
And so while I don't think that that will, you know, save America in the grand scheme of things, I do think that it is a point of friction or of resistance, not in the hashtag resistance sense, but just in the sense of making it more difficult to push through that is really worth keeping an eye on here.
I think, unfortunately, the answer, we already know the answer is yes.
Maybe like a slightly redder orange. Like a blood orange color, you know? I do think that... One of the things that I was worried about after the first few weeks of this administration was Elon Musk and his sense of invulnerability and his willingness to blow through the law, helping talk the administration into a position where it would defy a core order.
That was not something that we saw the last time around. And I think Musk is kind of the new factor here. And it does seem like we may be headed in that direction. Now, again, Because of those filings that were much more careful in how they framed things, I think I am less worried that this is going to happen imminently.
But I am concerned that, as you say, the sort of intellectual framework for such a move is beginning to be built.
I want to start by recommending a book by a friend of mine, actually. Her name is Joy Neumeier, and the book is called A Survivor's Education. I'm biased, but it's a really astonishing book about her experience as a graduate student in history at Berkeley, surviving an abusive relationship and going through the Title IX process.
And the reason that I mention it here is that I think what Joy does is,
in a really astonishing way is weave together the details of her experience as somebody who suffered from this abuse, as somebody who was testifying to her own experience with what it means to do the work of history when the archive is uncertain as to what it's telling you, and also what it means to live right now in this moment
under administration that is not only aggressively contemptuous of women, but is insistent at rewriting the historical record and overriding the existence of facts.
But I think it is a really useful text that brings together a lot of things that are worth thinking about seriously, as well as the kind of failures of the liberal establishments of universities as well, and how do you kind of hold on to the existence of fact, the existence of the record, the existence of truth, even when institutions that are ostensibly meant to back you against these sort of figures of...
aggressive unreality are no longer supporting you and are flawed in their design. So that's one. The second book I would recommend is by the French philosopher Albert Camus, The Rebel. I think a lot of people are probably familiar with Camus' book The Stranger, so he's a sort of figure of absurdist philosophy.
The Rebel is a book where he really tries to put into practice what his philosophy means. The argument that he's making is essentially that the nature of human existence is to be searching for meaning in a universe that refuses to give you any and that we have to kind of walk on that tightrope.
of wanting things to have meaning and knowing that we won't receive that from any kind of external force. And it's something that I have come back to again and again. The last book that I would recommend is by the historian David Blight, and it's called Race and Reunion. And it's a history of how...
Immediately after the Civil War and in the sort of subsequent years, Americans worked through their memories of the war individually and kind of collectively as a polity. The reason that I'm thinking about it right now and I've returned to it in recent days is because it's really about how
Americans struggled to build a multiracial democracy in the years after the Civil War and Reconstruction, and then how that fell apart during the redemption years, and how the memory of the war was rewritten and overridden by white Americans who essentially tried to write Black Americans out of that story. And again, I think in this moment where we are...
thinking and talking a lot about what it means to be American, what the American story means. I've been thinking about this more immediately in context of January 6th, that keeping in mind how these sort of dynamics of memory and politics have worked out in the past is a useful...
reminder that this is not the first time that we've gone through this it doesn't mean that it'll turn out particularly well but I do think that Blight does a really astonishing job in kind of setting out how that worked in the past in a way that at least for me has been comforting is not the right word perhaps but there's something that we can draw on there and knowing that this is not the first time that this has happened Quinta Jurassic thank you very much thanks for having me
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