Raanan Hershberg

Right. You can go back at any time. Yeah.

And then we just.

Cities would be.

It's horrifying. It's created such a... You know, I'm Jewish, obviously, if you can't tell. I think you brought that up. It's been such a complicated, horrible thing, and it's just horrible all around.

I know.

I know. I've posted... You know, I hate Netanyahu. I hate the Israeli government. I think both Gaza and Israel have been taken over by extremists, you know?

But I've posted concern for anti-Semitism, and I've been, like, attacked by people. Like, how can you be worried about that when people are dying in Gaza? And I'm like, there's two different things. Yeah, they're both real. Yeah, they're both real, and I have a right to be concerned. Jews have a right to be a little nervy. Some shit went down.

Well, I think what people have done, too, is there is an extremist faction in Israel who are awful.

And what people aren't doing, they're not giving Israel the benefit of a conflicted soul. And a lot of the anti-Zionist propaganda is making you think all of Israel is like that.

But it's no different than another country like America. It's a conflicted place. There are extremists and some of them are awful. And Netanyahu has put a lot of them in his government, made a coalition with them. But there's also people who want peace, people who want Palestinian self-determination.

It's like if you hated Trump. But then you assume when he was president, everyone in America supported Trump. Right. Right. If you thought that it's like. Right. It's very dehumanizing to think like all of Israel is like just in support of the genocide in Gaza. Right. And then you see polls.

Well, yeah. There's obviously a lot of... Horrible shit Israel has done, but a lot of people go beyond that and make it ... It's fine to be like they don't put civilians in ... They don't think about civilians. I understand that as a critique, but a lot of people want to make it look like they're going out of their way to just only kill civilians. They have a goal. It might be bad and reckless.

I don't know. It's hard to believe the purpose for that, the targeting.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't like... I don't have a position.

i think israel i think i don't it's hard for me to believe that that's where they i do think they want to get rid of hamas i think a lot of people have died it's awful and i don't think it's worth it all this at all but i don't think they're like you don't think that some people have a dehumanization way of looking at palestinians yeah for sure they definitely yeah well i think that's what you're looking at when you're seeing soldiers rape palestinian prisoners you've seen that video

Yeah, no, that camp is awful. It's awful, truly a nightmare.

I agree with that. I do think what Hamas did was so horrific and they said they're going to keep doing it. It did plant these seeds of hate in Israelis. No doubt. I'm in the position where, like, obviously this war is terrible. I don't think it should have happened.

But I also think it's a lot to ask people to have something so horrific happen and not them kind of retaliate, though I'm against it, if that makes sense.

But I also – yeah. I mean I think there's dehumanization on both sides. For sure.

Of course. And I do think people on both sides have tried to demean the other – or trivialize the other person's accountability. I know.