Rachel Abrams

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From The New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams. This is The Daily. In a matter of just a few weeks, the Trump administration has remade the global order. They've taken a hard line with allies like Mexico and Canada and Ukraine. They've warmed up to adversaries like Russia. And now, a trade war is on the horizon with Europe.

From The New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams. This is The Daily. In a matter of just a few weeks, the Trump administration has remade the global order. They've taken a hard line with allies like Mexico and Canada and Ukraine. They've warmed up to adversaries like Russia. And now, a trade war is on the horizon with Europe.

Today, my colleague Mark Landler on the alliance with Europe that seems to be fracturing and what all of it means for the new world order. It's Friday, March 14th. So, Mark, it has felt like the story of the past few weeks, which we've been talking about a lot on the show, is the pretty fundamental remaking of the global order.

Today, my colleague Mark Landler on the alliance with Europe that seems to be fracturing and what all of it means for the new world order. It's Friday, March 14th. So, Mark, it has felt like the story of the past few weeks, which we've been talking about a lot on the show, is the pretty fundamental remaking of the global order.

And we've talked about the impact of President Trump's tariffs on Mexico and on Canada, and we've talked about his efforts to take over Greenland. But it feels like one of the biggest ruptures in all of this is the seeming breakdown of the relationship with Europe. And you have been covering Europe and the White House for decades, so I'm just really curious what you are making of this moment.

And we've talked about the impact of President Trump's tariffs on Mexico and on Canada, and we've talked about his efforts to take over Greenland. But it feels like one of the biggest ruptures in all of this is the seeming breakdown of the relationship with Europe. And you have been covering Europe and the White House for decades, so I'm just really curious what you are making of this moment.

Well, let's go back through time. Tell us the story of how the relationship even got to this point.

Well, let's go back through time. Tell us the story of how the relationship even got to this point.

Because the U.S. is paying this huge military bill, Europe can spend its money on other things, and so therefore their economies boom.

Because the U.S. is paying this huge military bill, Europe can spend its money on other things, and so therefore their economies boom.

All of that sounds like a great deal for Europe, obviously. Can you talk a little bit about what the US saw that it was getting out of this?

All of that sounds like a great deal for Europe, obviously. Can you talk a little bit about what the US saw that it was getting out of this?

So in other words, because the U.S. provided so much security to Europe for all these years, it allowed Europe to basically become this huge economic powerhouse. And that relationship helped to make the United States even more of a world power than it already was.

So in other words, because the U.S. provided so much security to Europe for all these years, it allowed Europe to basically become this huge economic powerhouse. And that relationship helped to make the United States even more of a world power than it already was.

Oh, interesting.

Oh, interesting.

Okay, so basically this is like the first crack in the relationship.

Okay, so basically this is like the first crack in the relationship.

What was Europe's reaction to Trump when he first came into office with all of this tough talk?