Rachel Abrams

And what kind of consequences does he face if convicted?

Michael, I think this is only the third arrest total associated with the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

There was Jeffrey Epstein.

There was his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, and now obviously Andrew Mountbatten.

And this arrest happened in England.

And meanwhile, in this country, the United States, the consequences that we have seen for people...

associated with Jeffrey Epstein who have come under suspicion have largely, if not entirely, fallen outside of the legal system.

Why do you think that is?

Michael Scheer, thank you so much.

We'll be right back.

Nick, welcome to The Daily.

So I just finished speaking with our colleague Michael Scheer about the recent arrest of Andrew Mountbatten, the former Prince Andrew of England, and how this is really the first criminal consequence we have seen since, of course, the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein, the conviction of his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell.

And what I want to talk to you about today is I want to focus on the fallout from the most recent batch of files that was released by the Justice Department, in part because the consequences here seem to be coming harder and faster for people who have been implicated.

And we're going to talk about why that is.

But first, I just want you to explain to us what we have been seeing over the last few days and weeks.

I have to say every single day it feels like there is a new law firm partner, a new CEO, a new head of something who has lost their job or position because of what has come out in these files.

The New York Times has even come out with a whole tracker, basically, to help us keep track of all of these different names.

I want to talk about some of the most notable people to lose their jobs.

Maybe we can start with Kathy Rumler, who was up until very recently the general counsel for Goldman Sachs.

And Goldman Sachs, to be clear, did not push her out of the firm.