Rachel Abrams

You have focused on the other 200-plus people who were on those planes, as well as dozens of people around the country who have been rounded up by immigration authorities. So can you just tell us what specifically have you been trying to look into?

So you mentioned gang affiliations. That was one of the things on the government's agenda in terms of why it targeted these people. Can you just talk about that a little bit more? Remind us, what did the government say specifically in its accusations against some of these people?

So you mentioned gang affiliations. That was one of the things on the government's agenda in terms of why it targeted these people. Can you just talk about that a little bit more? Remind us, what did the government say specifically in its accusations against some of these people?

And just to be clear, one of the things that the Supreme Court seems to want to preserve here is the right of these men to defend themselves, maybe say, hey, I'm not a gang member, present some evidence for their defense. Because without that, then we don't know if mistakes are made. We don't know if the administration was correct in the evidence it presents.

And just to be clear, one of the things that the Supreme Court seems to want to preserve here is the right of these men to defend themselves, maybe say, hey, I'm not a gang member, present some evidence for their defense. Because without that, then we don't know if mistakes are made. We don't know if the administration was correct in the evidence it presents.

And it seems like you actually were the one digging into who these people were. Tell us about what you actually found when you started to do that reporting.

And it seems like you actually were the one digging into who these people were. Tell us about what you actually found when you started to do that reporting.

Okay, so obviously those are very violent offenses. Did you find any other types of criminal activity?

Okay, so obviously those are very violent offenses. Did you find any other types of criminal activity?

So we're talking about criminal records here, but what about the accusation that these men are in fact TDA or gang-affiliated?

So we're talking about criminal records here, but what about the accusation that these men are in fact TDA or gang-affiliated?

These are the photos that I think a lot of us saw, right? With men with shaved heads, their arms behind their back, at some sort of prison complex, it looked like.

These are the photos that I think a lot of us saw, right? With men with shaved heads, their arms behind their back, at some sort of prison complex, it looked like.

So, Julie, earlier you said that when you were speaking to families of the men on these planes, like Arturo's, you began to notice traits that they shared that seemed to have made them targets for deportation. Tell me about those traits.

So, Julie, earlier you said that when you were speaking to families of the men on these planes, like Arturo's, you began to notice traits that they shared that seemed to have made them targets for deportation. Tell me about those traits.

Wait, so, okay, so a point system, like, if you get enough points, the government says you are a gang member? Do I have that right?

Wait, so, okay, so a point system, like, if you get enough points, the government says you are a gang member? Do I have that right?

Can you just explain that a little bit? Like, how are the points actually assigned and what do you accrue points for?

Can you just explain that a little bit? Like, how are the points actually assigned and what do you accrue points for?

I mean, this strikes me as, like, not foolproof. I mean, is this point system that is used by law enforcement in this case to identify gang members, is this typical? Is this unheard of? Can you put this into context for us?