Rachel Abrams

So basically, it sounds like the Democrats decided that not only did the subsidies need to get more generous, but they also needed to be available to a lot more people.

Do we know who was really driving that surge?

What kind of people?

What kind of income level?

What did Republicans think of all these changes to the Obamacare subsidies?

Okay, and so that brings us to this moment where the subsidies are expiring, no agreement has been reached.

What do we know about the people who would be most impacted by the fact that these are going away?

Right, because for that group, those highest earners, their subsidies are going away entirely.

And so they'll see the biggest potential increase.

We'll be right back.

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Good morning, this is Lizzie.

Daily producer Anna Foley has been talking to people who get their insurance through the Affordable Care Act marketplace to hear more about how they're navigating the reduction in subsidies.

Margot, our colleague Anna Foley, who's a producer here on The Daily, has been spending a lot of time talking to people who are in the middle of making these really difficult health care choices right now.

And I wonder if you might be able to project forward for us a little bit.

Like, what might this start to look like heading into next year and beyond for these people?

And on the one hand, that is really disruptive for the folks who can no longer afford their health care or have to dramatically rethink the health care they can afford.

But in some ways, it also represents a reversion back to kind of a status quo.

And so I'm wondering how you are thinking about the world that we are about to enter.

I know you mentioned earlier that in the weeks since the shutdown, Republicans have been trying to get some kind of health care bill together.