Rachel Abrams

I saw that they had even done their own, like, 90s edit.

They and others are really capitalizing on this moment to sell Carolyn Bessette-inspired fashion.

Everybody is trying to sell me, like, here are the pieces that you could wear so that you can

A famous jeans ad.

That's right.

That's right.

Which also makes a cameo on the show.

That's right.

And speaking of the show, this is a series that is executive produced by Ryan Murphy.

Tell us about the kinds of shows he is known for and where this fits into those.

Obviously the public has devoured the show.

Can you just talk a little bit about how it's been received critically?

And just to explain why perhaps they found it cartoonish, a lot of people have pointed to something that I personally found sort of hard to watch, which was the depiction of Jacqueline Onassis.

There's a scene where she's dancing to... What is she dancing to?

So now that we have both established that we found that scene of her dancing both cringey and campy, this feels like a good moment to ask you overall, did you like the series?

Well, then let us discourse.

We're going to take a quick break.

And when we come back, we are going to take a deep dive into some of the reasons that the show is as big of a hit as it is.

Alexandra Jacobs, why do you think the show has been so popular?

That's what every woman in America is probably like.