Rachel Abrams

A lot of the people who lost their positions were never indicted on any kind of criminal behavior.

So in some ways, it actually feels quite similar.

It's interesting that you use the light metaphor because I think so much of the frustration around Epstein is the opacity.

The fact that these files were so difficult to get.

It took an act of Congress to get these files released.

Even after these files came out, there were a whole bunch of redactions.

And there are still so many swirling conspiracy theories about what is and is not included and what we don't know.

I want to bring this conversation back to where it began with former Prince Andrew and his arrest on Thursday, because I wondered whether, just given everything that we've discussed, the news of that arrest, regardless of what it was for, might have struck some people as a surprise, just given the fact that this is a person who had not faced any kind of legal scrutiny, legal consequences for years.

And people might have thought he never would.

Nick Confessori, thank you so much.

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Today's episode was produced by Michael Simon-Johnson, Alex Stern, and Shannon M. Lynn.

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