Rachel Abrams
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Then, a few months later, Ruby got a very different message.
Some of the family members of the square have the answers that people like Ruby are dreading.
They know that their relatives are dead, but they come here for different reasons.
They come to support other people.
They come out of a sense of solidarity.
They come because they understand what it means to wait for these kinds of answers and to finally get them.
Meanwhile, Karmit's mom was struggling more and more with her health, suffering from ailments related to her captivity.
She steadily declined and passed away last year.
The people here, the families, there are so many families who are anticipating having their loved ones returned.
What does that feel like as somebody that also was in that position?
How do you think the country has changed?
And how much of that change is permanent?
And how much will go away when the war is over?
Coming up next, I speak with my colleague Isabel Kirshner on what the return of the hostages means more broadly for Israeli society and for the end of the war.
We'll be right back.
Isabel, thanks so much for talking to us.
We are speaking at this moment when there are enormous scenes unfolding, not just where you and I are in Israel, but also in Gaza, where hundreds of thousands of people are going back to their homes and their neighborhoods, which have been largely destroyed, to try to figure out how to start rebuilding their lives.
International journalists are still waiting for access to Gaza.
We're not allowed in there.