Rachel Abrams

And I just don't know, while I can understand why she'd be upset about this, I can't figure out where do we think the ethical boundaries are when it comes from taking true stories and fictionalizing them.

I mean, I get his point.

But, you know, but OK, but in Daryl Hannah's case.

If she had been interviewed, if she had been consulted, I mean, I think that's where it would have been.

But what he does have, going back to the idea that we're sitting here and talking about this, is attention from all of this.

Attention.

Have you ever heard of the Streisand effect?

Yes.

Reiterate for me what it is again.

Okay.

So the Streisand effect.

So Barbara Streisand once sued a photographer for taking a photo of her house in Malibu.

And what do you guess the result of this lawsuit was?

Oh, everyone knew her address.

Everybody knows.

More people probably want to go to the house to see the famous Barbara Streisand lawsuit house.

That's right.

I would guess, and I have no data, I'm about to say something that I have absolutely zero data for, but I'm going to guess that the number of people who have refused to watch the show because they side with Jack Schlossberg or Daryl Hannah is less than the number of people who are watching it because they want to be in the conversation and know what all the fuss is about.

It's interesting because in some ways, the op-ed, like the show, asks the audience to make a choice.

And the choice is, how much sympathy do you have?