Rachel Abrams

You describe this as a tale of woe for a wine importer. I want to understand that better. A tale of woe, yes. Tell us the tale of woe.

You describe this as a tale of woe for a wine importer. I want to understand that better. A tale of woe, yes. Tell us the tale of woe.

So bottom line is you import wine. That costs money. It's already cost you money. You decided to fight this.

So bottom line is you import wine. That costs money. It's already cost you money. You decided to fight this.

How did you feel when you won yesterday? Because I got to point out here, you're literally going up against the president of the United States. You presumably know how much this policy means to him. And you just threw a gigantic wrench into his whole plan.

How did you feel when you won yesterday? Because I got to point out here, you're literally going up against the president of the United States. You presumably know how much this policy means to him. And you just threw a gigantic wrench into his whole plan.

Do you feel any certainty now about what to do with your business? Like, will this actually help the plant? No.

Do you feel any certainty now about what to do with your business? Like, will this actually help the plant? No.

What bottle of wine did you pop open when you found out that you won?

What bottle of wine did you pop open when you found out that you won?

Victor, thank you so much. Enjoy whatever bottle of wine you pop open tonight. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time.

Victor, thank you so much. Enjoy whatever bottle of wine you pop open tonight. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time.

After the break, I talked to my colleague Gina Smilick about how this case could impact the president's tariff negotiations moving forward. We'll be right back. Gina, welcome to The Daily. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. We heard from this wine importer just now who was elated by this trade ruling that came out on Wednesday night.

After the break, I talked to my colleague Gina Smilick about how this case could impact the president's tariff negotiations moving forward. We'll be right back. Gina, welcome to The Daily. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. We heard from this wine importer just now who was elated by this trade ruling that came out on Wednesday night.

And I'd like to take a step back here and just understand what was this case about?

And I'd like to take a step back here and just understand what was this case about?

Right, and the court that ruled late Wednesday agreed with that assessment.

Right, and the court that ruled late Wednesday agreed with that assessment.

It only feels like it's adding to this kind of whirlwind of trade news. It's really, I think, been hard for a lot of people to keep all of these different tariffs straight. So I wonder if you could just kind of help us understand the current state of play on tariffs. Like, what is in place? Where? What's on hold?

It only feels like it's adding to this kind of whirlwind of trade news. It's really, I think, been hard for a lot of people to keep all of these different tariffs straight. So I wonder if you could just kind of help us understand the current state of play on tariffs. Like, what is in place? Where? What's on hold?