Rachel Abrams
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So what do they start discussing?
So this conversation, just to recap, is them discussing whether ramping up attacks on the Houthis militarily will be a good political strategy. Yes. And you're telling it sounds like they're having a kind of a polite disagreement. J.D. Vance is seemingly disagreeing with the position that Trump has.
So this conversation, just to recap, is them discussing whether ramping up attacks on the Houthis militarily will be a good political strategy. Yes. And you're telling it sounds like they're having a kind of a polite disagreement. J.D. Vance is seemingly disagreeing with the position that Trump has.
And that disagreement seems like it hinges on whether or not we're making the Europeans pay enough, which is something we've talked about on the show quite a bit.
And that disagreement seems like it hinges on whether or not we're making the Europeans pay enough, which is something we've talked about on the show quite a bit.
So I want to check in with you here because in this moment, do you still think that this is a hoax? Are you starting to sense that it could be real?
So I want to check in with you here because in this moment, do you still think that this is a hoax? Are you starting to sense that it could be real?
It can't be true.
It can't be true.
No, Bob Woodward has spent an entire career trying to infiltrate groups like this, so how could you possibly have just been added to a group chat?
No, Bob Woodward has spent an entire career trying to infiltrate groups like this, so how could you possibly have just been added to a group chat?
And just to be clear, the skiff is a...
And just to be clear, the skiff is a...
So what happens after this? How does the discussion progress from here?
So what happens after this? How does the discussion progress from here?
Like actual military planning that is a settled business and about to happen.
Like actual military planning that is a settled business and about to happen.
I want you to describe to us what you're seeing in this group chat after the attacks start.