Rachel Abrams

I want you to describe to us what you're seeing in this group chat after the attacks start.

Emojis. Which emojis are they using?

Emojis. Which emojis are they using?

So what do you do next?

So what do you do next?

And can you tell us why you decided to leave the group chat?

And can you tell us why you decided to leave the group chat?

And what was the response?

And what was the response?

Jeffrey, I want to talk about the immediate reaction. This is such a breach of security protocols. Can you explain the hazards of this from a security point of view?

Jeffrey, I want to talk about the immediate reaction. This is such a breach of security protocols. Can you explain the hazards of this from a security point of view?

And in this particular scenario, this particular attack on the Houthis, if a foreign adversary had gotten this information that you saw, what is the worst case scenario? Like, can you just play out the possibilities a little bit?

And in this particular scenario, this particular attack on the Houthis, if a foreign adversary had gotten this information that you saw, what is the worst case scenario? Like, can you just play out the possibilities a little bit?

Yeah, I just don't want to breeze over it. I want to make it really clear for people that the reason that it is important for the government to take all of these precautions and conceal these types of plans is that this information getting out there could compromise a military mission. It could put military service members at risk.

Yeah, I just don't want to breeze over it. I want to make it really clear for people that the reason that it is important for the government to take all of these precautions and conceal these types of plans is that this information getting out there could compromise a military mission. It could put military service members at risk.

Those are the stakes here.

Those are the stakes here.

Right, of course. And because these are the stakes, did they break any laws here? Like, we're talking about sort of how things are typically done, but did the existence of this group chat adding you, was any of this illegal?

Right, of course. And because these are the stakes, did they break any laws here? Like, we're talking about sort of how things are typically done, but did the existence of this group chat adding you, was any of this illegal?

Right. Right. So I can imagine that if you are a member of the military or the State Department, you are frustrated to say the least. That's that's what you're because you are held to a very, very high standard that these folks, at least for now, do not seem like they were holding themselves to.